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On outsourcing and it’s ills…

March 1, 2011


As evidenced on various web-sites, this outsourcing business has really created a deep India hatred in the US.

Interesting, because India was set up for this role with it’s english centric education, a boom in software education in the early nineties and then the very convenient, absolutely contrived and seemingly long-forgotten Y2K scare, where everyone was told that their undies would catch fire if everything was not checked. And this led to banks off-shoring all the work they said the US could not handle. And they chose their hand-picked Indian lackeys to take the business here. Ruined 3 generations of Indians so far (had to change name, like Jamal had to be Jim, changed language (accent training) and stay up nights and sleep days.

And  overpaid to boot.

Beautiful set-up eh?

After the Y2K whimper, everyone was just glad to have survived and forgot that the outsourcing tap, now open for cost-cutting was wide open. And Indian’s were turned, almost overnight, into an aspirationalist, totally greedy, thoughtless, business obsessed, white obsessed people.

All morality has disappeared in these lost generations. They had their identity stripped away from them… name, speech and circadian rhythms?

You guys think this has been good for India? Please, take your call-centre jobs back. But your banking masters will not let you. Slave labour is addictive to them.

So, similarly, china was turned into the polluted, lawless factory of the world and India was turned into the always unsure pretender of a back-office boy.

All foreigners, who complain of Indian’s and chinese in their countries not “mixing-in” with the local, come here and live in gated communities, drive the most expensive cars, completely tinted over, have their own over-priced shops….. they do not mix at all.

It is a really interesting thing to see all this hate here. No one can think beyond their nose of their belly. Since when have them money-men ever done anything that has been good for ANYONE? Never.

India is a lost nation. In 15 short years from the introduction of Colour TV and “The Bold And the Beautiful”, India has lost it’s soul.

Seriously, the American influence, in every sphere in India, has been pernicious, down to the agenda pushing NGO’s, pushing male sterlization and massive vaccination drives.

Bill Gates, Mr. Polio Eradicator (Hah, we know you mr. Gates and Buffer) is here and Sarah Palin is coming as is Niall Furgueson. Full court press. Oscars, Grammys….nothing is hard for India now. Hollywood loves Indian beauties. Yes. Because now they look like American ones.

Outsourcing has ripped the fabric of Indian society at it’s solar-plexus.

And when the dollar collapses, as it will, so will this entire bloated, middle class….

There were three las vegas themed parties, with actual vegas strippers in Bangalore this new year. People look terrible in ill-suited western clothes. Now increasingly naked. That has been a shocker. Women walk around half-naked, but in Indian clothes.  Oh and our daily paper has two or three full page spreads about the rainbow revolution and greatness and okayness of gayness.

Hand-picked celebrities are being thrust everywhere. Chose an actor to speak with Billary. It has been elevated to a deified state. We know who is financing the current Bollywood. And Tollywood and kollywood. The paw-prints are everywhere.

So please take your jobs back at 2$ an hour and serve each other.

Any gain to India through this bargain has been a carefully crafted illusion.

Bernays would be proud.

And another pernicious, pervasive impact. One of the primary differentiation in cultures, a culture’s buffers as Gurdjieff would say, are created by a culture’s moral code.

No two moralities can ever be alike. Even within the confines of the same moral code. Morality is a highly individual definition.

And so you take a good south indian lad and send him off to LA or Amsterdam to do a project. In six months, chances are he would have tried hookers and blow. The morality delta induces huge cognitive dissonance. And then he comes back to India and is again bombarded by said cognitive dissonance. Now he is a mis-fit at home. Over-sexualized, borders snapped open, he is adrift.

Culture is the cliff against which the ships of globalization are crashing. Thank goodness.

Homogeneity is  death. Lack of polarity is vitality-less.

Let’s go back to being different and relishing it.

sometimes, the irony is just delicious…


51 Comments leave one →
  1. anasana permalink
    March 1, 2011 9:21 pm

    Greetings, thank you for such insight and counterpoint to usual arguments. I found you on ZH and am glad to have finally taken the time to view your blog. The world needs more of you. It is so easy to be swept away by the currents of fear in an uncertain world. We need bright spots of refuge and advice. thank you

    • March 2, 2011 5:06 am

      Thanks for your comment anasana and the appreciation. Do share here as you feel called.
      ZH, with fight club mentality and all is a bright spot for me, in fact encouraged me to start writing here. 🙂

  2. bingaling permalink
    March 1, 2011 9:31 pm

    I am always amazed at the stupid choices people make once they have money or more money than they know what to do with . I will even admit to making some of them myself .

    I also think we are globalising some of humanities worst traits instead of the best .

    As for the Gay thing I am not anti . I am straight but lived in a community in the US where over 50% of the people were gay .Nicest neighbors I have ever had .

    • March 2, 2011 4:39 am

      “Globalising some of Humanity’s worst traits”.
      Exactly. Well said.
      As for gayness, since my point in the post seems to have been mis-understood, please see my response to Josh above.

  3. Josh A. permalink
    March 1, 2011 9:39 pm

    “Oh and our daily paper has two or three full page spreads about the rainbow revolution and greatness and okayness of gayness.”

    Wow… are you really anti-gay? The last time I commented on this, you sidestepped saying your comments had to be taken in their full context of having read all these long previous posts.

    But now I’d like a direct answer.

    • March 2, 2011 4:35 am

      Josh, I spent 7 years in the San Francisco Gay area, amongst the freaks and the confused and the mutilated and the free. My take on sexuality is far deeper and more open than what probably comes across here. Please see the context. 10 years ago, the pictures they print in rainbow themed specials in India would have made the nation gag. Almost pornographic. That is what I’m railing against.

      My point is that homosexuality or heterosexuality is to be neither celebrated or suppressed. The rainbow movement has an agenda. And it is an ugly one. Look what they’ve done to heterosexuality as an example.
      Sexuality used to be deeply private. It’s being ripped onto the front pages is what I’m pointing out.

  4. March 1, 2011 10:29 pm

    just came back from India.. was visiting relatives and traveling and I agree with you one hundred percent. The media seemed obsessed with the lives of stars and sport figures.. while some news reported on the political corruption it certainly did not do any in depth analysis.

    However, my wife was blown away by the sheer number of fabric, color choices, art, handmade products … No way can we buy clothes in the dept stores here and not think this is boring.

    Even stores that sell niche products from everything from combs to locks to everyday foodstuff to medicines and then there is the jewelry, unbelievable choices.

    Then there is the absolute chaos of traffic and crowds and trains and travelling, but somehow it all works even if it is not convenient. Also the festivals like the Khumb Mela in Allahabad.. nothing like it anywhere. we loved it.

    New Delhi, Agra, Allahabad etc. each place is vastly different than others..

    Then we went to Ambience Mall in Gurgaon.. what a boring piece of shit place with designer shops that are transported from some california suburb. To see all the IT idiots wearing western suits carrying Blackberries and eating KFC or McD!

    Such a waste of all that tremendous brain power going to waste.. working on bullshit back office crap when that knowledge could be used to deliver engineering solutions to the local needs for infrastructure, energy and water systems as well as improving quality of life and making lots of money.. god knows the market is there for all that stuff

    I hope somehow India avoids the Mall and suburbs banality and embraces the diversity of its culture.. would be a shame to go there and discover that the place looks like a cheap imitation of silicon valley.

    • March 2, 2011 4:37 am

      I hear you sam. Vibrancy is a function of polarity. We have it in spades here, but it’s being squeezed.
      TeeVee is a powerful drug. Almost too powerful for most.

  5. scout permalink
    March 2, 2011 12:43 am

    America is but a root of the problem. What was the seed and when was this seed sown?

    Enjoying your posts of late. Keep that stream a-flowing…..

    Peace and blessings to All

  6. Bob permalink
    March 2, 2011 1:31 am

    As you have been lamenting the loss of India, I and many others have been lamenting the loss of America, when respect and civility was common. The sad reality is we bought the ticket, now we take the ride.

    • March 2, 2011 4:42 am

      Bob, like India, America is lost in the cities and what I like to call “Population Incarceration Zones”. Once beyond the pernicious grasp of said PIZ’s, you can find the same warmth and civility.
      One time, I was driving through Georgia/Alabama, slightly skeptical, but I had the sweetest reception in the littlest towns.

      The literal and figurative pressure of city life and pace kills us, not even softly and definitely not with a song.

  7. March 2, 2011 3:30 am

    Unity exists in the embrace of diversity.

  8. enicar333 permalink
    March 2, 2011 2:05 pm


    I agree with your thesis. You have described the symptoms well, and it is sad indeed. This leads me back to my Adam and Eve/Apple/Snake thesis. The West offered the Apple, India bit, Innocence lost….Pandoras Box. Now, the Culture is destroyed, and people changed, forever. This is why so many Indigenous Peoples fight against Civilization and want us to go away.

    However, once again, the cause is internal. It is born of envy, greed and lust. I’m sure Wise Elders warned against taking these steps, but their voices were shouted down. Progress, Change! It is the way of the future. (and yes, the British infection)

    Past great civilizations have left their ruins for us to study. We search for clues to answer the question, “Why did they fail”? The answer lies before us now, right before our very eyes. Simply put, humankind has exceeded the carrying capacity of its’ environment and is out of balance with Nature. We have become gods, in our own minds, through our technology, but it is only for a time. Man proposes, God disposes. The correction is coming, but the Circle of Life shall continue. In death, there is life, these are now the birthing pains. The wreckage of our civilization shall provide the means of survival for the few to re-establish tribes in balance with Nature. Let the ruins of our civilization stand as a monument to our stupidity and arrogance, and as a warning to them.

    • March 2, 2011 2:40 pm

      Very true Enicar. interestingly, one of the things I notice world-wide (and I’ve been around a bit) and especially here in india now…

      Mostly Olders and very few Elders. Thats telling, in my book. Innate wisdom is all very well, but it needs the womb of Elder Wisdom to bloom in.

      • enicar333 permalink
        March 2, 2011 3:25 pm

        Yesterday I went for a long bicycle ride. I visited the lake front, then went to Colonial Park and spent some time with nature. It was peaceful and beautiful. I went to the River, and listened to its babble. In the River there were still some Salmon from the fall run, some dead, and some dying. Returning to the Earth, making way for those who arrive in the Spring run. It was wonderful and relaxing.

        As I pondered all things, my mind came to the conclusion that there are only 3 possible solutions to Human Kinds current predictment. 1. Extinction
        2. Return to Tribal Lifestyle 3. World Wide government, using limited technology, in accordance with the principles outlined on the Georgia guidestones.

        I agree with the message of the Georgia Guidestones. We need a Council of Wise Elders to direct humanity, as outlined in its’ precepts. It is not pleasant, but we have failed to heed the voice of reason.

        If there was a plan for an elite to go into hiding, then shutting off the power, to let nature takes it course, then emerging to a sustainable World, I would agree to it. It is necessary. It will prevent humans from destroying the Planet. It is time to end “solutions” that lead to ever increasing predictments and only excaberate the problem. The Elephant in the room is human population. Paul Ehrlich, Thomas Malthus, William Catton, Richard Duncan, Jay Hansen, etc. etc. have warned us. The majority have refused to listen. Let the age of reason begin.

        In death there is life. Death is part of life. This is not a call to suicide, but one to acceptance. The West rebels against aging, death, the Circle of Life. In the death of the West, there is birth and life. We are priviledged to be participants in the death of the Age of Exuberance and the birth of the Age of Reason.

        • March 2, 2011 3:42 pm

          Enicar, the thing is will the georgia guidestone numbers happen naturally or will they be made to happen. They may be fait accompli, but I find in your tone as you write about them a certain….hmmmmm…..a certain…..hmmmmm….admiration? Surrender?
          Why? And agreement with the elite plan? Then why rail against the almost minor stuff happening in WI?
          Doesn’t add up. Care to explain?

  9. velobabe permalink
    March 2, 2011 3:15 pm

    morning ORI. iam glad i took the time to read your article from yesterday. i just get so upset to read and realize what is happening all around us. the people just buy or choose a life style. i guess i choose mine at an early age. i just get by, not acknowledging these alternative life choices. i probably admit i am racist. i keep it to myself. i don’t need people in general very much. just usually one man at a time. never really knew jewish or gay people. i am an odd bird. you have a lot of self sense. me too, but i still high light my hair and like to be vain in the sun†

  10. Jan permalink
    March 2, 2011 4:43 pm

    Yep, and few paid and pay attention to what Krishnamurthi once said. Even fewer understood, or understand now, what he meant in essence: ‘It is no measure of health, to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society’.

    Thanks for sharing V!

    • March 3, 2011 3:59 pm

      indeed Jan, that Krishnamurthy quote is so apropos to this discussion and our time in general.

  11. Anonymous permalink
    March 2, 2011 6:36 pm

    Indeed, it is a shame that India went so fast from the land of yoga, chess, Kama-Sutra and Gandhi to the land of ridiculously cheap and unskilled workers.

    I feel your pain, even as a Westerner who still loves the past India, but fails to understand modern Indians.

  12. dublinmick permalink
    March 3, 2011 12:27 am

    Watching from a distance I could see India was having problems, GMO corn, farmers committing suicide, bollywood. It appears it has already been decided that your fate will be the same as ours. At least if it continues going in this direction.

    I should have guessed you had been to America as you are well versed concerning cultural patterns or lack thereof. There is a fifth column in India probably seeded by the British long ago. They are so good at that. Here they are really pushing the vaccination program lately as the word around the campfire is the new Hitachi chip will be ready for the needles soon if not already.

    I get what you driving at, India is not sheltered when it pertains to sexual mores. The towering monuments of coiled bodies are evidence of this. There is a difference between Kama Sutra and sex in shop windows to sell raffle tickets though. If I am not mistaken Ghandhi slept between two virgins.

    It was quite surprising however to see Indian warships off the coast of Libya. That was definitely a WTF moment for me. India will rue the day they were led into this fiasco.

    Careful about expressing any reservations concerning homosexuality. There are legions of narcissists all over the internet who will descend on you with a vengeance at the slightest sign you do not share their views. It is a part of the new religion. I am not sure just what to call it yet but I am working on it.

    We have our cl0wns here who believe they are the real Americans and everybody else is an interloper. I remember years ago hearing someone pass off as a joke something about, who has killed more indians than Custer……………Dow Chemical, was the answer. There was a radio announcer for awhile who had a contest every morning. It was called something like natural born or Indian. He would pick up a phone book and call a seven eleven store to ascertain if it was indian or local owned. There were the usual jokes about stand back from the slurpee machine.

    I am sure you know all about that if you have been in the states though. San Francisco is a tough place to get your feet wet when it comes to America.

    • March 3, 2011 3:35 pm

      Ah dublin, are you in the US then but of Irish descent?
      And yes, I hear what you are saying and one of the reasons I started being bold (thank you America) was the realization that political correctness is a truth killer. Truth can be told gracefully. Kindly. It’s is-ness is far better to deal with than all the other baggage that comes with white lies. And havign lived so closely with the gay community in San Fran, I understand their mind-set well. They’re not so think skinned. This new rainbow revolution, funded and pushed by vested interests is what I rail against.

      And as a bit of a tangent to your point, I found talk radio to be one of the biggest polarizers in the US (Imus etc. and that long haired freak with the black co-hostess whose name I choose to forget).
      And it is here now. FM/XM all day talk radio is here and people are stuck in their cars and listen. I can see where that road is going.
      And gandhi….hmmmm….clay footed british plant. Nothing else. He played his role to the hilt, leading to India’s partition and current situation with Pakistan/Bangladesh.
      Such a fascinating time we live in.

      • dublinmick permalink
        March 3, 2011 6:54 pm

        Yes I live in Florida, you know where they have poisoned the gulf. Not sure how long I will be around. I was writing on the dog poet’s site as anonymous a few years ago and I just came up with a handle so people would not mix me up with others. Then I got the brilliant idea to start a blog and people already identified with me as Dublinmick.

        I used that for the blog, but yes I am Irish living in America. I have never met an east indian here in America I could not get along with. I like them, especially those little females with the diamond in their nose.

        There was one who ran a deli near where I worked I had a lot of fun with. He was Hindi. He sold hot dogs and deli sandwiches and such. I used to say fella do you eat that? He said no I don’t eat this shit, I just sell it. He said people who eat flesh eventually become an animal themselves. I so O.K. I understand now.

        But anyway I used to kid him and say I know you are an undercover Muslim posing as a Hindi, it is obvious with all that meat around here. Boy he would come unglued. It was I am not Muslim, I don’t eat cows flesh. He finally sold the store and left. I hated to see him leave, he was a lot of fun.

        With the homosexual movement, it is pretty much how the Chinese line it out. They call it dragon yang or yang on yang. This is counterproductive to the forces of nature. You know better than I that in tantric practice the yang energy is supposed to flow out of the female into the male and vice versa for the male ying finding it’s way to the female. The Chinese have had this view for thousands of years and it is good enough for me. It is nothing personal towards the boys out in Cisco.

  13. cathartes aura permalink
    March 4, 2011 4:55 am

    ahhh, that was a great read anadianant, so many places to “jump in” at!

    overall, you’ve shown just how insidious this parasitic overlord class is, and how they work their poison into the systems(s). . . fascinating in an horrific way to see it happening now in your own unique culture, and at such a pace – though the speed of the mental colonising helps the observant see the patterns, hmm?

    because of your time spent in other cultures/nations, particularly amrka, you can point to the tools of mind-control, and the inevitable outcomes – while one might say folk are being “american-ised” really they are being corporate-ised, infected with the aspirational virus, aspiring to be MEmes, unique only as subtle variants, but thoroughly same old same old – YOU can see this because you are a-part from it, and have observed it in an-other “culture” – a blessing, but a curse as well. . .

    I remember moving to London from LA, wanting to find people who were not the consumer beauty culture of LaLa, but REAL humans – I was barely out of my teens, and hit the UK as punk culture was just about to be “capitalised” on, packaged ‘n’ sold to “the kids”- it was about as far from my own history as I could imagine, and hugely energising, creatively. . . within a few years, the Big Bang (deregulation) happened in The City, and people began to acquire monies, first the City-Suited Boys, who flashed it around in pubs and clubs so obnoxiously, winding through the narrow streets in packs after closing hours, howling, puking, harassing, so ugly.

    so I too have seen how humans become co-opted by what appears to be amrkn culture, but in truth, that same “culture” also infected amrka, just much much earlier. . . now that we can see the patterns, we can also see the outcomes, eh. . .

    it would appear that this “successful” colonising of the mind, borne of the financial class/globalists, whatever you want to call them, this has been documented in writing for at least a century, they know what they’re doing, how to accomplish the mind-set that is most profitable to them. . . once the parasite has fed fully on the host, it simply moves to the next meal(s). . . amrkns can barely understand that all they thought was unique and special about themselves is simply a template, a “successful” experiment that is now patented much like Monsanto does its terminator seeds – fake natural, resultant death.

    *gah* of course you know I could go on, ha! I’ll spare you (all), and instead say happy new moon in pisces, fasten your seatbelts as the planets impatiently line up for the Aries BANG! to come. . . uranus enters aries (at zero degrees it is also the spring equinox point) on 3.11.11, those numbers have much “esoteric” juice, already I’ve seen things conspiring to happen on that day, revolutions as only uranus can herald – by April, fully5 planets in Aries, plus the sun(3.20.11) and moon, for a spell. . . it really won’t be the same, soon.

  14. enicar333 permalink
    March 4, 2011 3:48 pm

    Listening to, and watching the Teachers in Wisconsin made me realize that Man displays a remarkable inability to reason. Man was endowed by the Creator(s) with the ability to make choices, something which is very unique. What I see, reflected in the Teachers, is a remarkable degree of selfishness and callousness towards others, and if they can’t have what they want, then no one can have any. (not to mention their poor performance). Their choices show their heart, they are misfits and their actions are incompatiable with the Universe. These people, instead of opening their hearts, controlling their impulses and desires, would rather enslave and ruin their neighbors and engage in the economic death of others.

    Man, in general, treats the Planet as a personal playground with no thought or real care to any damage he may cause in the quest to satisfy his endless desires. Those who watch over us, might feel regret at ever having created us. Do you think it brings them pleasure to see what we have done to their Creation?

    The Precepts of the Georgia guidestones, especially the manner in which I see them written, leads me to believe that they came from those above us, those watching us. They are going to apply limits and new means to control us. I agree. There is nothing I object to in those precepts. This War is between humanity and those who have power over us.

    There is another war on Earth, one for the hearts and minds. This pits group against group. This is the war we talk of here and on ZH, etc. Perhaps ZH is testing, “Where is your heart?”
    I have pointed out that the battle is internal. The battle on Earth, that is going on between groups, will decide who is worthy, and who is not.

    ORI, your response to my truck story surprised me. The truck is not a gift, but a curse, all things are not worthy.

  15. virginia permalink
    March 7, 2011 5:36 pm

    Yes! How articulately and spot on …Thanks

  16. pattoo permalink
    March 8, 2011 1:42 pm

    i really enjoy your blog . it really is disheartening watching how we reveal our ugliness as a species . all in the pursuit of more material . where have all the elders gone . the ones who would warn us about the pitfalls of material lust . this really is a sickness . another culture bites the dust . now we get to watch as the arab world becomes ” democracized ” ;so they can have their world of emptiness .

    • March 8, 2011 4:40 pm

      Glad to know pattoo.
      And yes, I always bemoan the lack of Elders. I always tease my Mom that her generation is Older Heavy and Elder light.

  17. Rodrigo permalink
    March 10, 2011 2:46 pm

    I just read an article about corruption in India and thought it pertinent to this blogpost:

    In Uruguay we have large out-sourcing office parks. Like our agricultural exports, these exports are free of national duties. India’s very own Tata Consultancy is among the largest organizations in this respect.

    I really appreciate your blog and your perspective. We are fortunate to have a tool such as the internet, which, although the blossom of a military seed, also serves to inform and connect.

    • March 10, 2011 4:09 pm

      Rodrigo, nice of you to say that and welcome.
      Tata has a long, shall we say, history with globalization. And not a good one either. They fulfilled Opium Contracts for the Queen.
      All this globalization is causing the death of culture, genuine culture, for a cheap, bland imitation of one.

      • Rodrigo permalink
        March 11, 2011 1:16 pm

        Globalization creates a cheap, bland, and easily disposable culture. Total household garbage volume in Montevideo has doubled since 2005. This current boom in private consumption is inexplicable from my perspective, as wages have lagged behind GDP growth, the vast majority of which has been accrued by extractive multinationals and the local kleptocracy. Of course, national media trumpet the macro numbers, which only feeds the consumer voraciousness.

        Only this week we received the kiss of death from the Wall Street Journal, which published an article on “hip, undiscovered Montevideo.”

        P.S. Have you read Dope Inc? Lyndon Larouche provides an interesting, albeit skewed, perspective. Is the east gaining back what was stolen?

  18. Mike permalink
    April 29, 2011 11:28 pm

    With the number of comments naming the predatory nature of the powerful as the cause of so much exploitation and misery, it reminded me of a quote by Val Valerian. He stated that, yes, this is a predatory world, which is the reason we chose to come here. I’m assuming he is talking about reincarnation, which allegedly comes with the ability to choose the next life we wish to experience. I have no idea if that’s the case or not. Not sure if Val does, either. BUT, let’s assume it is and here we are in a hell of a pickle with no one to blame but ourselves.

    The question is, why would we make this choice? Did we come here to change things? To witness the change? To experience the pain? To be predators ourselves? Ironically, those are our options whether Val is right or not. Either way, the purposes of our lives don’t seem to be much of a mystery. We have a monster at the front door and he’s not going away. In fact, he’s eaten the watchdog and most of the neighbors. There’s no doubt what his intentions are. Most people want to lock the door and watch TV and hope he finds a different neighborhood to terrorize. Which will work for a while, but he’ll be back. This monster has an enormous appetite; insatiable, actually. I really don’t know what it’s going to take to slay this creature, or even if it can be. But, we all seem to share the same destiny: Kill the beast or be devoured by it, every last one of us.

    I feel like it’s coming to a head, that forces are gathering. That the monster’s days are numbered. I hope, for all our sakes, that I’m right. It should be quite a show. I wonder what parts we’ll all play?

  19. July 12, 2011 10:04 am

    anadianant great article , really enjoyed reading it .

    Have you seen the tv show outsourced and what were your views on it ?

    Here is a link to the show on IMDB

    • July 13, 2011 5:57 am

      Thanks Larissa. Have not seen Outsourced, will check it out.
      Thanks for sharing.

  20. random_rambler permalink
    April 25, 2012 10:38 pm

    i found this post rather good.. honestly i had a rather low opinion about your posts in zh. i agree with all of what you say… but just as the western influence in india is manipulation by the bankers/corporates, the traditional indian society is manipulation by a lot of religious whackjobs, and also the lack of resources…i believe the creation of a middle class in india is a +ve effect of globalization…What the middle class is doing with its newfound wealth aping the west might not be… however just because you like to see people wearing yellow turbans and bangles and clutching to religion because they have little else to cling to in life because of their circumstances is no reason to riducule a slightly more equal society …

    • April 26, 2012 7:15 am

      Random, thanks for writing in. I have a 2 year body of work that truly encompasses my viewpoint and frankly I am totally past caring what people think of what I say. I’ve done deep inquiry into whatever statement I make. Nothing said lightly. Hardly ever anyways. I spent 12 crazy years in the US, tasting everything from great wealth to zero money. My view-point, is in-formed.

      And now back in India…. my eyes are wide open while most of India’s eye’s are Wide Shut. I see and hear the arrogant spark of recent material attainment and Tellavision guruspeak all around me. India believed it’s argumentative nation label from Sen and flaunts it like a bauble. Even here, I spent 12 years in the Navy, saw India from a unique perspective before the states.

      India and the west are in deep doo doo my friend, and someone HAS to call the emperor naked, no?

  21. Gavrikon permalink
    November 5, 2012 8:35 am

    Thanks for another perspective. Throughout all of (at least, American) history, the powers-that-be have been addicted to slave labor, whether it come from Africa, Ireland, Asia, Mexico . . . There is also an almost religious dogma that all societies should become American-style “democracies” where people have “freedom.” I suppose it is freedom to mindlessly consume the garbage that the multinationals manufacture, and to debauch oneself and one’s culture. “Diversity” is given mouth-service in the US, when in reality, the globalist elites are interested in a monochromic consumer in the East with no recognizable differences from the same consumer in the West.

    We in the West often feel hatred towards those who are threatening our economic well-being, and indeed, the massive offshoring of factories and tech work are the main underlying problems with the US economy. The debt bubbles were just attempts to disguise how much of the economy has been sent overseas. And government debt continues apace as revenues fall ever further.

    In reality, that hatred should not be focused on those who want a better life for themselves. It has been squarely earned by the “descendants” of the early slave masters, who now run companies like Goldman Sachs, GE, and end every other multinational you could name.

    • November 5, 2012 9:32 am

      Very good points all Gavrikon. Really, the globalists “plan” is clear to see (for those with eyes to see etc.) eh? And MSM is a good “director” of the energy of the masses, always deflecting it away from the true cause, which, in our time, is the personalized “body” corporate as you said.

      Monochrome indeed.

      Thanks for sharing.

  22. Innocent Retard permalink
    November 5, 2012 10:12 am

    Nice post. I am here from ZH.

    While I totally agree with the perils of homogeneity, I wonder if you imply that the Indian culture was leading to utopia 15 years ago. If that is indeed the case, I disagree. Overwhelming majority of the masses is made to care little beyond their debt to the local baniya or the next religious ceremony to celebrate birth/marriage/death/what-not. Not to forget the dowry killings and the Khaps and the female infanticides. Even the most-romantic would be hard pressed to overlook these and more.

    Does it matter who is the whip master as long as there is a whip? I’m too confused to pick a side, I have seen the horrors of both.

    • November 5, 2012 11:32 am

      Hi IR, thanks for the pertinent thoughts.

      And no, not at all. India has been on the slide for a longish while (Since the Brits and East India Company came, 400 years or so).
      But it was a closed, socialist and controlled society, Social controls, capital controls, industrial controls (regulatory capture), Krony Kapitalist to the hilt…. on and on.
      But the last 15 years (especially since the intro of TV) and then the last 10 (once the IT kids started earning), it’s been a rocket ship DOWN.

      And those poor call center kids…. no name, no confidence in their newfangled speech, no sleep…… just lots of money, late nights at work…. recepie for a social disaster that is now un-folding, visibly.

  23. Innocent Retard permalink
    November 5, 2012 4:48 pm

    Thank you for your reply. I broadly agree with you and dearly wish that we had a third option.

    There is another unspoken angle about the socio-economic perils of outsourcing industry, which unfortunately has never seen the light of public debate. Allow me to highlight. I might (will!) ramble but I urge your patience. Your thoughts are much anticipated.

    The sole purpose of shipping jobs to India is cost, period. All the BS about Indian talent is just that, BS. If our talent pool is what they wanted, they would be looking in US/UK and the likes. How can accelerating outsourcing accompany an ever-accelerating brain drain, unless brain is a non-issue. The work that is outsourced is mightily stultifying – menial, repetitive, mind-numbing and boring. Needless to say, you don’t need 10 years of experience to get it done. That is why fresh graduates have been in high demand for most of the last decade or so. The hoopla created by media around the packages of these graduates is gobbled down by the non-elites as the only escape from the wretched jaws of a deprived life. If you are poor, you are deprived b default, and if you are middle-class, in this age of mindless consumption, you are deprived unless you have all the latest gizmos and 2 sedans parked by your sea-side 3 BHK. The packages, by the way, are ginormously exaggerated to manipulate masses and both institutes and employers are party to this propaganda. But let’s leave this for some other day.

    No wonder all around us we see parents skimping meals to send their kids to good schools and needless to say, education has become one of the most lucrative industries. It is not unusual to see an IIT coaching instructor earning 8-10 lacs per month (INR 800,000), after 4 to 5 years. There is more money in selling the dreams than living it. Anyways, most graduates after joining the mill naively extrapolate their salaries into future and launch upon debt binge. With time, salary goes up and soon employer finds it “cost-efficient” to replace him with a graduate. Our naïve graduate, who by now has a home loan and/or a car loan and a pregnant wife, is on the verge of being declared redundant. Just when he could least afford losing his job, he loses it. Bills and EMIs have to be paid but alas the sole reason he had the job was because it was cost-efficient and that reason no longer holds. In no time, a new graduate replaces him. Newbie’s story is celebrated in his small town, even makes to the local newspapers and sends sparkles in the eyes of hope-hungry parents. Five years later, its their kid on the centre-stage, hurray! Rinse, repeat.

    Ask any outsourcing employer about the average age of their employees. I owe you my head if it significantly exceeds mid-twenties. Employees in outsourcing industry are deathly insecure, once they start to ‘age’. They live under perpetual fear and insecurity to make it through the funnel, which separates giant pool of faceless slaves from tiny elite pool of senior mgmt. For failure to funnel through means either accepting a dead-end job for another 5 years or so with no bargaining power and virtually stagnant wage or default on their parents dream and their own. Loss aversion takes over and the reckoning is delayed. But for how long? One can run but one cannot hide and we Indians were never really good runners, in the first place!

    In a labor-abundant country, such as ours, balance of power is always going to be with capital. And doesn’t power corrupt? High-def cameras on the office floor and relentless tracking through ID cards is a norm. The so called notice period for quitting jobs is nearing 3 months in most places. Welcoming you to the world of “new and improved” bonded labor, approved, assisted and perpetuated by your very own govt.

    With experience your value to your outsourced employer goes down. Nobody needs intelligent sheeple. If west has youth unemployment, we have middle-age unemployment/under employment. Weaker currency, tax incentives and special economic zones can only support this train to nowhere for so long. Not to mention, weaker currency being an indirect tax on the savers who don’t own “real assets” further aggravating the class divide.

    Oh the stultifying effect on fresh young mind, anxiety and depression for middle-aged and the burden of decimated hopes or elderly parents. At the hands of outsourcing, what an assorted platter have we been served. We, indeed, have been served!

  24. September 13, 2013 12:44 pm

    Late to the party. But I have to tell you that I never got those bloated salaries. I was job-hunting at the conception of the BPO industry in India and I wasn’t savvy enough to earn a lakh-a-month. But I will tell you this, I am able to jump jobs quite easily, of course took me some time to break out of the mould of ‘retirement only jobs’ mind-set. But here I yam & doing good. Would this have been possible pre-US cost-cutting? Nope, not for us average mediocre cretins who’d have been stuck on the side-walk.

    And about the rave on sexuality, yet again why blame another culture for the loss of our innocence? I was brought up on a diet of English movies yet I know the difference between watching a french kiss on screen & jumping beds like the Olympics- blame poor judgement & the environment of “monkey see, monkey do”. And don’t forget everyone wants his/her kid to be an engineer, doctor, just a ‘professional’ degree- no aptitude required. So what do all those highly degreed mediocre talentless graduates do? They find jobs in BPOs & the highly vaunted IELTS industry.

    • September 15, 2013 3:34 am

      Jellifer, der aye, drust aye.

      I’ll just speak of the sexuality part here for a moment.

      First off, it’s not just India, there is a cartel whose job it is to destroy human relations. Pornography is their weapon. I’ll presume you are a woman (name) and tell you that the male psyche is putty for all things sexual. Media makes it worse Said cartel/cabal own th emedia.

      So we have Sunny Leone on big boss and a movie star. And the poonam pandeys and jism 3, 4 and 5. And my conservative mom smiles and says theek hai beta ji, zamana hai when I ask about sunny et. al.

      So, it’s engineered this way, via a story-line far too complex to tell here, but is scattered all over this blog.

  25. June 12, 2015 11:12 pm

    This is one of the most beautiful things I have ever read. Moving to NJ I became enraged at how Asians, mostly Chinese and Indian, Pakistani…tend to lose the beauty of their eastern cultures to morph into whiteman puppets.

    The irony is I never knew your side of the argument. God bless you and your people and may the ones here wake up and see they were fed a lie!

    My culture is the same, we had farms, food and love back home and our parents gave it away to come here and fall for the DREAM.

    The good news is that sooner or later the world will wake up and balance will be achieved.

    Please check out diaryofanegress on google, she runs a blog and her last post was about the ANGER and HATRED some people feel towards minorities as their privileges dissapear.

    The humor in all of this is how the Oppressors are the CREATORS of all Financial malfeasance, but when the SHTF, they want to blame ANYONE else but themselves.

    Simply read Zerohedge and analyze the WHITE WHINE. These idiots cant spell KARMA if it hit them in the face.

    I have yet to see the FED hire a man of color as its head. Believe me, in a sinking ship, that will be the NEXT strategy! An Indian Central Bank head just like they do in Trading.

    Set up the Indian to take the fall….see Raj Ratmujuran, SAC Capital, the London Bedroom Trader kid they are blaming for a flash crash…etc.

    Talk to your people, tell them that Edison and Princeton wont be so inviting when whitey feels they have been had!

    The irony of white people complaining about problems THEY CREATE is hilarious to me.

    Whaaaaaaaahhhhhh, indians are taking our jobs….Waaaaaaah.

    Now they might know whats it like to be black or asian or hispanic in this country.

    Much love from your Carribean brother from another mother!

    • June 17, 2015 5:39 am

      Hola brother Juan, yes yes and yes. Thing is though that the common man of any nation is just a poor patsy. All the places we direct our anger are buffers.

      So i took most of my anger inwards and burnt it in a cold fire 🙂 Your people’s true story begins with Sugar….and what a story it’s been, eh? Thanks for sharing…..


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