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Thunder, Perfect Mind

June 21, 2011


In case many people missed this at the bottom of the last post, which was pretty lengthy…

It was of course the rapidly nuclearizing mid-west, floods and all. Here is what I want to re-post…

And then ask yourself…. this is a known seismic zone AND a potential flood zone. Super events at such locations happen rarely, but totally unpredictably. How could you ever justify the risk? I mean look at Indian Point. 20,000,000, that’s Twenty Million people, live within 50 miles of it.

And they all leak their polluted cooling water into the rivers.

And people wonder why they are getting sicker and sicker?

Here is a little secret for you. The extreme sickening of our atmosphere, with every kind of known carcinogen being thrust into our food chain, toxic food chain, meat over consumption, meat over production, excessive cruelty in the meat food chain…….

all of the above and any more that you can think of……

THIS IS ON PURPOSE. Let’s not forget Aspartame and Teflon (non-stick) and Microwacve cooking while we are at it.

And throw cell phones into the mix too.

All  KNOWN sickeners. Dis-ease makers….

Why would they/anyone do this on purpose?

It is to disguise the fact that we would all have been in this place of sickness as a race anyway because of low-level Nuclear Radiation Poisioning, ever since that fateful day on July 16th 1945 at the trinity site in New Mexico.

Tongue in cheek, the town nearest the Trinity test site is named Truth and Consequences. I’m not joking.

So, sit with that for a bit. Thousands of low and high level nuclear tests have ben carried out in remote and not so remote parts of the world for 65 years now.

This coming July 16th will mark the 66th anniversary of the Trinity test, the day we went Nuclear, again. Of course we’ve been down this route before. Again and again. It’s so tempting, free energy.

But we need to understand that the nucleus is Pandora’s Box.

To split the nucleus as we have is to create space-time rifts. Sub-atomic strong forces have no mode of expression in this 4 dimensional world, except explosive. Once created, it’s not a rift that can be closed again either. Foldspace has been unfolded.

What a mess eh?

Can you put toothpaste back in the tube? Huh?

Same problem. You cannot sew back that atom again.

So, 16th July, 1945 is still with us, and will be forever. So are August 6th and 9th 1945. And Every blast at Bikini Atoll and in Nevada…. the half lives of many by-products are in the billion’s of years. And they are all floating in the atmosphere. And settled in the soil. And in the water.

But Mme. Curie’s own death due to radiation poisoning is a stark but well known example of long knowledge of radiation’s harmful effects.

I mean, look at this foolishness this way even… We were given an Ozone layer and a perfect atmosphere and ionosphere, to protect us from UV/Gamma rays etc. And what do we do?

We try to make our own Sun’s, again and again. And end up with a totally polluted environment anyways.

So, I hope you got the secret. All this sickening making environmental and species (including us)destruction is on purpose, to mask the pervasive and long term impact of atmospheric testing of nuclear weaponry.

And of course the UNITED STATES (capitalization intentional), to up the ante further, starts the DU spreading with Iraq in 1991. Harmless DU. No point even getting into it here. You just need to google Depleted Uranium and can sit and watch documentary after documentary about Iraq’s Birth defect rates skyrocketing. Now Afghanistan. Now Libya. All along the 33rd Parallel…… fine uranium dust. And don’t forget those poor veterans of the Iraq war, suffering the mysterious but obviously DU related Iraq War Syndrome. Being told it’s a psycho-somatic thing. Kind of like Margoellens.

Quite a perverse mind-set one would have to have, eh? if you think this is just happenstance, I suggest you dig a little further. Slip on down the rabbit hole.

SO, I’m a label on packaged food reader, to the embarrassment of most people with me at the store/cafe…wherever.

But I remember my drive down the Chemical Mile on the I-95 in the Garden State of New Jersey, where factory after factory churns out the insidious “Nature Identical”. Pure chemistry. Taste tested to perfection. Most of them barely pass toxicology standards, of course set by lobby pressure of the industry to be lax in the first place.

Even if it seems that way, this is not a ramble. It’s all connected, you see?

Japan, the most nuclear nation eats the most packaged junk. Plastic rules Japan with an iron fist. As do preservatives. And you know what is even more bizarre?

Let me take you down a real rabbit hole here.

All those preservatives, excess salt and excess sugar in Junk food?

Preservatives. Salt. Sugar.

Ring a bell? What effect do you think they have on your body once in it? Sugar is the best preservative. Salt pickles and preserves meat. And artificial preservatives, we can assume their prey-set is pretty broad spectrum.

So the Preservative/salty/sugary food basically preserves you from the inside. You don’t rot. You get preserved. Can you see that? So you live longer, because you are being preserved through Junk Food.

The walking dead. Seriously. Preserved in a vat of Sugar, Salt and Pickling.

Ponder that connection for a bit. I’d say it’s one of my bigger con-spiracy in-sights I’ve sprung on the blog.

You see, it’s all starting to happen now. The early waves of Aquarius lapping at our toes. Water water everywhere. The great snowmelt will explode when 3 weeks of freak heat will arrive just like the extended winter or the freak tornadoes did. We need to heal the water.

But all the element’s are angry/upset/violent right now:

Earth (Earthquakes  all over the place)

Air: See above. Plus, tornadoes like never before.

Fire: Volcanoes are getting active again, world over (Chile, Iceland, Indonesia…long list)

Water: Hmmmm….. GOM should be enough said, but floods, floods here and going to get worse, much much worse. Soon.

Indian rivers are dead in all but name, dammed, canal-ed, blocked, dredged, polluted and wasted to mere excuses of their past selves.

I suggest water is going to re-assert it-self. And it’s not going to be easy or pretty.

Do you know how to swim? You should. We all should.

Literally and figuratively.

Back on topic though…

And the nuclear genie that can never be stuffed back in the atom.

And so a perpetual sickening through low-level radiation poisoning forever. Pretty much.

Thus a concerted, knowing attack on the species, a bombardment of poison through every possible vector: food, culture, technology, entertainment, literature…every sphere.

So that the nuclear mist may go un-blamed.

I believe this thesis of mine completely.

What do you think?


And take good care. Intuit your way through life, now more than ever. Look at the signposts, they’re all blowing in the wind. Only the inner compass. only the inner compass.

De-preserve yourself so that you can live. Try to not eat flesh if you can help it. i turned vegetarian in 1993. I believe it changed my life. Stop with the sugar drinks and fast food. Yank the cable. Bye bye programming. Create. Co-create.

It’s the quickening you see and the trick to survive it is knowing how to slow down.


There you have it. And then Alexandra wrote in with this comment:

My family is beset by auto-immune problems….rheumatoid arthritis, hives, lupus, fibromyalgia, thyroid disorders, autism. In my research I’ve learned that the incidence of auto-immune disorders has exploded during the nuclear age. Of course, given life-long exposure to radiation, toxic chemicals, and the preservative-salt-sugar trifecta, what else would one expect?

I’ve thought for more than a few years that the current focus of the environmental movement on global warming has shifted consciousness away from environmental pollution. Back in the 70s and 80s, it seemed that critical masses of people had developed awareness of the pervasive presence and consequences of nuclear and chemical pollution. It was all over the news, and focused on in the schools. But now, climate has taken center stage, and environmental toxicity is more of a niche issue. At least in the U.S., where I am.


Makes perfect, convoluted, perverse sense does it not?

Are we immersed through some chains we cannot throw off to this dysfunctional existence? What doe sit take to loosen them? There is no need to break free. Breakage is needless.

I read, a long time ago, in a fascinating book on eastern aphorisms, about a master butcher who worked for a Chinese emperor.

They say that with a single stroke the entire edifice of the animal simply opened up. The master butcher knew the source of the knot that held it together.

Our own liberation journey has similar aspects. If we can reach the knots, they can simply be eased and teased open. No need to cut, rend or shred either. Notice that even in nature’s greatest fury there is majestic grace and beauty.

So can it be with us also.

Grasp the sword of your mind and wield it with passion, grace and fire.

All it takes is knowing how. And all that takes is a practice.


Blade glittered

Dark not

Menacing Even

Just odd

Infinite Edge

Finite ego……


63 Comments leave one →
  1. EduardoFrancisco permalink
    June 21, 2011 12:33 pm

    I read somewhere on one of the blogs a quote (can’t remember who)
    “When you’re one step ahead of the crowd, you’re a genius.
    When you’re two steps ahead of the crowd, you’re a crackpot.”
    There are very, very few people I know where such subjects can be spoken. The only path is destruction and rebirth.
    “Because he has loved Me, I will deliver him.
    Because he knows My name I will set him securely on high.
    He will call on Me and I will answer him.
    I will be with him in trouble.
    I will rescue him and honor him.
    With long life I will satisfy him and let him behold My salvation.”
    Ps. 91.

  2. izzy permalink
    June 21, 2011 4:16 pm

    Well, you will certainly get no argument from me about the pervasive and horrible effects of both radioactive and chemical pollution, nor the fact that the stuff is now everywhere. But the dangerous nature of atomic radiation has been widely known almost since the beginning, and all the chemicals of course simply make the environment even less healthy and hospitable to life. Why exactly would there be a conspiracy to use one to mask the other? It seems more like pernicious stupidity layered onto even more stupidity. They are both out in plain sight – it’s not a secret.

    • June 21, 2011 4:49 pm

      izzy, open acceptance of the nuclear issue would make all the cancer research and diabetes research and Nuclear power and nuclear warships and that whole MIC industry….nuclear medicine? Hah!…. all of them would be under great pressure no?
      So, yes, well known but hardly acknowledged. I did not start thinking about it till only a year ago.
      What say?

  3. dw in tahoe permalink
    June 21, 2011 5:35 pm

    Hi V,
    I have read this 3 times now and it’s now sunk in. Thank You.

    I have stopped eating red meat, I needed a ‘clearing’.

    My awareness is getting better each day but I have major swings of energy levels that

    seem to shift out of no-where from major worry to the highest bliss.

    As Les Visible says about the Apocalypse in one of his latest posts:
    “The Apocalypse is necessary because people have become blinded by desires, appetites and a collective ignorance; a shared unreality that doesn’t actually exist and neither do the people sharing it. They don’t essentially exist as what they think they are. That is a mask.”

    All the best, Love to all,

    DW in the Tahoe Forest

    • June 28, 2011 4:03 pm

      The Lifting of the Veil occurs when I wake up and realize/know/accept that All is Me. That is, I understand that I am the Creator and the Creation all rolled into One.

      Peace on Earth,


      • June 30, 2011 5:35 am

        once you realize/know/accept it, your reality, and then it ceased to be, no?
        And there’s so many veils…duality is one, birth annd death, another, space and time…
        We are created, and creating, as energy continuously, but not much in our current cloak?
        Thanks for sharing,

      • Nadall permalink
        August 18, 2011 12:42 am

        When I click upon the IK, I find the most amazing blog. Thanks.

  4. Nadall permalink
    June 21, 2011 9:30 pm

    Vivek, you’re right except for the motive part. You’re looking too low … at the puppets of the real masters. Go back way before the beginning of the nuclear age. Much love to you.

  5. June 22, 2011 8:38 pm

    Earth is a factory farm for humans.

    well, it might just look that way, but it seems to explain things quite well.

    of course, it may also be a testing ground for consciousness expansion, and an easy life isn’t going to expand anyones consciousness…

    • Nadall permalink
      June 22, 2011 11:14 pm

      Interesting Flipdog…what are we being farmed for? I’ve often had similar thoughts, but would sure like to hear your take on it.

      • June 23, 2011 4:20 am

        Flipdog and Nadall,
        similar thoughts here…always felt we are lab rats.

        An old chinese saying: “Like attracts likes…”! Could it be that we think similarly, thereby picks up like-fractals similar to digit codes in a computer (so we are machines, as Vivek said).

        Now, having said that, I am going to go out on a limb here…

        Energy we are all, we think we manifest, fractal-ly recorded. Nothing gets lost.
        Space and time is an illusion, as are births and deaths (resonating Vivek’s we are going from womb to womb).
        So acceptance (or NOT) will “become” part of collective consciousness (become? or re-constitute fractally, since nothing new in the universe?)
        Radiation, chemtrail, lab-cultured-virus/DNA, chemicals and metals in water, light-bulbs…
        fractally coded to exist (or NOT). Reverse is possible (so the higher minds —some are here on Earth— are working, helping).

        Consciousness expansion farm.

        We don’t think, we don’t manifest? Not really.

        Nohold barred? Perhaps.

        Aware. Learn. Constitute. Re-constitute.

        Ego-less, emotion-less, enemy-less, electric-less (hey, we are the light).

        1. Self. 2. Others you care (you and I included). 3. Heal. 4. Roam 8 (infinity).

        I am justing thinking out loud. i am what i am.

        Thanks for sharing.

  6. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 23, 2011 3:56 am

    Izzy, Vivek and all – I believe here is the answer We have simply allowed the maniacs to morph our systems into ever more maniacle sources of greed and power/control. Thay have done this for a very long time even before any of us were alive as it goes back a very long ways, the forces of evil and mens wrongdoing. I urge everyone to read this and view the videos as they answer many questions. We have all come to the conclusion that the fed and banks are the end all be all but it is much deeper than that and likely goes back to Able and Cain or some where in our ancient past . This information will change your thinking forever and undermine any good thought you may have had about our systems ? All of the problems Vivek is identifying stem from the above entities and the control machinations of men and political maniacs that we have allowed to rule us for a very long time. We will either throw them off of us by what ever means necessary or die . It is all unwinding/imploding as we speak . There are no other choices .

    • Nadall permalink
      June 23, 2011 5:29 pm

      Thanks for the link Stephen …. good one. Also, I agree about the Abel/Cain/ancient past connection.

    • clueless one permalink
      June 25, 2011 4:58 pm

      Stephen/Nadall and Viv…

      Please check out DanielsTimeline. 12 part video by Dewey Brewton on u-toob.

      I’d really love to hear your take on it and the correlations within. I believe what I believe…and don’t diss or judge any on their beliefs. I’m just looking for some folks to discuss what, to me, seems like a pretty darn interesting time we are witnessing.

      It’s about 2.5 hours…but well worth it. Again, I’d really love to talk to you guys, and anyone else for that matter, about it.

      Thanks for your time…and thanks Viv, for yet another great post and journey within…

      Peace. Be well.

  7. June 23, 2011 10:25 am

    As I try to understand what could be the motive for poisoning the Earth in the many listed ways it seems that the agents of the poisoning must feel that they are immune. It seems hard to imagine being immune to, say, plutonium. It really seems like the Powers That Be are being utterly reckless from either insanity or ignorance or both, from the point of view of Earth-based biology. These mysterious destroyers must believe they are immune for some reason. Like they can move elsewhere or maybe aren’t even bothered by the toxicity? If it is wanted to trim excess human numbers why do it in a way that destroys the non-humans?

    In any case, I find it not so likely that all the other vectors of toxicity would be introduced to cover up/distract from the nuclear hazard, as it is out the barn door so long ago and is so long-lasting, unless they know how to clean it up. The “pooch is already screwed.” What fear should they have of the dumbed down masses anyway? What is the purpose of conquest if the prize is hopelessly polluted? Either it is not actually hopelessly polluted from the point of view of the destroyers or they are so crazy they don’t even care?
    So maybe the cosmic squeeze is on to force as many as possible to transcend out of this Maya altogether. Some kind of a “gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet” Divine Play?

    • Nadall permalink
      June 23, 2011 4:21 pm

      Brian, there is some thought that the “reptilians” actually thrive on heavy metals and nuclear material, just as the spiritual component of said same, as you so aptly put it, mysterious destroyers hover around us to inhale and feast on our powerful emotions …. anger and fear in particular … hence the media focus on what’s awful, horrendous, disgusting, etc. (I won’t watch the news anymore on TV, but it’s even in your face on the internet as you try to read/write on wonderful blogs like this).
      Your last statement on the Cosmic omelet is wonderful.

    • June 29, 2011 12:01 pm

      Yup brian, pretty hard to fathom a motive here, hmmm? That is why the answers only lie with-in us, for each of us, unique and yet sharing the common bedrock of axiomatic awareness.

      The without in our own immediate vicinity will mirror the within. It is all we really have to work with.

  8. Ragnarok permalink
    June 23, 2011 2:58 pm

    Hi Vivek,
    Love your writings and your macro-perspective. There’s far too much focus on the nitty-gritty out there for my liking. Don’t get me wrong, i guess it’s necessary for those who still perceive the world through the plasma screen. But, once the general outlines come into focus, there is little to be gained from documenting every last little outrage that has been perpetrated by and against us, bar a mounting sense of rage and frustration about not being able to help those in the far flung locations of the planet, which doesn’t help anyone.

    Someone or something guided us down a cul-de-sac many thousands of years ago and we are fast approaching the terminus. I’ve often thought about being able to go back in time to that day when someone came up with the concept of “mine, not yours” and removing him/her from the equation. But maybe all this was necessary for us, a learning experience. Personally i have no problem with the notion of a reset button, which the planet increasingly appears to possess. Bring it on, i say. This thing called “civilisation” has been built upon such pain, misery and death. No amount of material benefit accrued can ever justify the means employed, period.

    Your ideas on the nuclear cover-up are interesting and make much sense. However, i think there is an element of gradual genetic manipulation to the whole affair. A forced evolution in a particular direction. Environmental pressures and conditions are one of, if not the, biggest factors that drives natural selection and evolutionary change. Change the outer environment with nuclear and chemical means, change the inner physical environment with all the nasty additions to our foods. Where the end destination lies is anyone’s guess, but i suggest a divergence of the species.

    Anyhoo, i’m sure the universe has other plans 🙂

    Go neirigh an bothar leat


    • June 25, 2011 3:36 am

      Divergence of the species….what a fascinating concept.

      In school I learned the idea that the “civilisation” of man had brought about the end of evolution…that we as a species had essentially conquered evolution through “control” of our environment, minimizing natural selection pressures.

    • June 29, 2011 12:09 pm

      I like that parting wish Ragnarok. May the road rise to meet you too. I’d use it if I knew I was saying it right, but it looks devilishly eyerish ta mae. 🙂

      All your points are well taken and glad to hear you appreciate my perspective. It’s an interesting observation I make often to myself. I’m 45 now and over the past three years or so, my near vision has weakened, but my far vision is fine. And it strikes me as how it was meant to be. As you age, gracefully, the nitty gritty ceases to matter and you broaden your horizon and perspective, having shared what you learned on close introspection with the youngins.

      The reset you speak of? I see the count-down, in real time. The signs are everywhere.

      Thanks for sharing.

  9. Nadall permalink
    June 23, 2011 7:04 pm

    Have you guys heard of David Icke (pronounced w/ hard I)?.

    • June 23, 2011 9:23 pm

      I’ve heard of, but that was back when I paid attention to mainstream media, and the ridicule and scorn sent in his direction meant I never really investigated (although I did hear him give a radio interview on the BBC back in about 1992, where he sounded reasonable, but the minute he left, Nicky Campbell – brother of the dreaded Alistair – hatcheted him.) maybe I should check him out.

      with regard to the above ‘factory farm’ comment, I was kind of non-committal about the purpose, because I simply don’t know. If, as someone else mentioned, we’re being farmed for our emotions (especially the negative ones), then what we’re seeing would probably be about the most effective way of doing that without too many people catching on. Equally, this may be a testing ground for consciousness expansion or even a necessary phase for consciousness to become aware of itself – again, just guessing – but have you ever truly learned something without living it, without experiencing it? my thinking here is influenced by Steiner and de Chardin.

      But maybe we need to go through all of this to get where the Zen masters got to – 3 pounds of flax!

      I can’t remeber the exact quote, but Huxley said something like – when you delve down into the fundamentals of matter, you realise that matter, as such, doesn’t exist, that it is pure energy. and when you delve down into the fundamentals of energy, you get pure consciousness. Is this not (I’m sure Vivek will correct me if I’m wrong or misguided) somewhere close to the notion of Brahman? so maybe Brahman is having a nightmare and will bring on the destruction that follows the Kali Yuga in order to wake up and start a more pleasant dream…

      • June 24, 2011 1:32 pm

        Flip, have you read the work of Viktor Schauberger? I sense you might “dig” it, so to speak.

        3 pounds of flax indeed.

        And Brahman is stateless, formless, so I assume sleepless too and thus dream-free.

        The mare, nightly or otherwise is ours. The drama is purely ours and I agree, we are in the spin cycle., Then we’ll be “hung out to dry”, metaphorically and otherwise.

        Perhaps the pleasantness starts from there?

        • June 24, 2011 9:05 pm

          that’s not a name i’m familiar with. thanks for the heads up, i’m off for a browse…

      • tip permalink
        June 25, 2011 3:54 am

        we’re getting warmer my friends. yes the mare is purely ours, (un)consciously co-created, with a push by those who have the means & knowledge (knowingly or not) to put pressure when & where needed to produce their desired effects.

        that is, until such time until the esoteric becomes fully exoteric and then the jig is up.

        +1 spiral jetty on ol’ Viktor. way ahead of his time, that man.

    • June 23, 2011 9:28 pm

      Nadall, given the tone/tenor/nature of most commentators, I’d assume the answer to that question si a resounding yes.
      Else I suggest

      Quite the character eh? I’ve read his books, seen his videos. Crazy background makes me think psy-ops sometimes. But some of his and Cred Mutwa’s insights are stunning. Much love in return.

  10. jane quatam permalink
    June 24, 2011 11:01 pm

    I would suggest you go back on your medication. You lost me at the dangers of microwave ovens. You might want to focus on understanding the disease rather than merely considering the symptoms.

    Makeup on a corpse is pretty, but it won’t bring back the dead.

    The system is terminal, life is just to die, Try to find your bliss, make the most of your days, they will not return. Life is fleeting. Better to understand one thing well, than to misunderstand an entire universe.

    Know yourself first.

    • June 25, 2011 3:20 am

      Well Jane, you lost me on your rude opening statement.
      Whey don’t we talk about that. If this is how you say hello, how do you think the rest of this conversation might go? Is that how you meet people?
      And why so presumptious? Very curious. Indeed.

    • Nadall permalink
      June 25, 2011 4:50 am

      Wow … Holy (?) smoke Dark Lady. Phew. You just blow through a room like black night/hot lava. Perhaps we’re close to the fire.

  11. Michael permalink
    June 25, 2011 1:32 am

    Aren’t we all just along for the ride? Not to be flippant or disrespectful, the search for meaning is a deep drive, but we, nor “they” are in control of exactly nothing. The pretense to think we are is delusion. the elite, the PTB, the reptilians, the annunaki, are all part of the fractal which will unfold refold condense expand as it does. as the end of the mayan calander nears, the end of maya, it becomes more clear, we are peaking (sic) through the veil. it is with eager anticipation I await evidence of the next level. i was in bed bath beyond the other day marvelling at the dreadful uselessness of our “highest” culture! what a joke we are, how anticlimactic it is to think that the end result of the glory and wonder that is life and consciousness is shopping for bath mats in some gloablaized meag-industrial shit shuffeling machine! the pinnacle of human achievement in this era is the distribution of cheap worthless crap. NEXT. please, what a disappointment. thank you Vivekananda for your insight and contribution to the unfolding, un-learning. eyes bright, love in the heart!

  12. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 25, 2011 4:18 am

    When all is said and done, all the hypothesis and suppositions boil down to one reality. All our suffering is due to plain old garden variety greed and hubris. No need or reason to complicate any of it. It is as obvious as our breathing, which we never notice but is quite necessary . We (humans) are destroying our planet faster than it can rejuvenate itself so teh end game is a very few potentialites. We are simply living in a time when we are seeing it all unravel . Then best thing to do is get away from cities and live a very simple agrarian life amnd learn self sustenance techniques and enjoy it for its simplicity. You will have teh time time actually think and feel . I have been pondering forming a communal system for just this purpopse for a rather small amount of buy in . I have found a near pertfect location and am seriously considering this prospect with a limited few partners as communal mates/investors. I have a backgorund in RE/business and lots of skills that would be very beneficial to put this together and sustain it. I will be taking applications in the not too distant future based on skills, financial ability, general overall attitude and life experience(education not necessarily formal education) . Buy in will be under 100K . All based on a self sustaining farm related property where all will live and prosper in a simple environment . I am ready to get out of Babylon before it implodes . I can be contacted @ for more details and questions. The site will be in Columbia basin in Oregon Umatilla County. A very mild/temperate farmimg zone with a very small population and lots of seclusion/privacy I am basing this on a Mennonite prototype locally that has been highly successful but I will scale it down. Their operation is mutli millions and totally dependent on the system. I see a much more basic necessity and individuality as a common denominator, but communal cohesion/survival as the glue . Maybe Vivek will come back to US in a simpler format/location and we can curry some sweet potatoes ? I would like to share a lot of my skills with others of same thinking/mind set. I trade everyday and have a good grasp of finance/economics from education and many years of dealing with relatively large sums of money in a business environment . Health conscious and a realist. Basicly non political or agnostic ( they are nearly all criminals IMO) Also open to any other ideas, locations even foreign countries. Good luck to all !

    • June 26, 2011 4:24 pm

      We are trying a similar concept, on a smaller scale. A traditional multi-generational homestead, just 5 acres. In a rural county, but with train access to a city. We have room for our parents, and are hoping our children will be interested in staying. We’re trying to grow everything possible…fruits and veg of all kinds, potatoes and corn for starch (we think wheat is too cumbersome to deal with, plus gluten has some drawbacks) livestock for milk and eggs, and a small vineyard for wine production.

      I have seen a couple of other ventures like yours crop over the last couple of years…I think its a good concept and people are ready to unplug from the current norms.

      • June 29, 2011 11:16 am

        We are looking to do the same here in India or any place that calls, hard. More on that on the blog soon via the project.

        Good to hear Alexandra. Nature has a way of balancing us out. Perhaps we will all be related through a physical net of such communes/communities/back-to-earthers.


  13. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 25, 2011 4:27 am

    Michael – Yes it is a pile of crap and quite meaningless. But only if you participate on the mandated level of stupdiity/ig – Norance. There is a better way, I think to wait out the coming end game and perhaps prosper well beyond . None of us knows exactly what is to come in absolute detail but we can decide the here and now and try to live a better life. ON PURPOSE !

  14. Nadall permalink
    June 25, 2011 4:56 am

    What a wonderful idea Stephen. I hope it prospers. I wish I were younger/healthier. Ah well.

  15. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 25, 2011 4:56 am

    Vivek – Same thoughts on Icke and I have read some on V. Schauberger and his theories on water and energy as free flowing force. Interesting stuff as well with Tesla. We have an abundance of energy all around us, we just use it and conceive of it wrongly. Anybody with minimal skills can build a wind generator and water actually falls from the sky and can be captured and reused in many ways before going into the ground and reused again after purification from the ground. we simply think about things wrongly and have incorrect expectations. It can all be simplified tremendously at very little cost and some elbow grease (ie physical effort) . Sweat is a very healthy thing ! A little physical work makes one sleep well and think well .

  16. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 25, 2011 6:39 am

    Nadall – I will be posting more in near future about this idea with more detail about the concept and the people/skills needed. I am 63 going on 33 and have been pulverized physically and have healed from all manner of conditions without doctors.(probably why I healed) I am sure you would agree that our health is the most important asset any of us have, because without that all else is rather more difficult. The good news is our bodies will actually heal itself if we give it the proper ingredients (nourishment/rest/exercise-stimulation and refrain from excesses). Our mind/spirit/soul is also equally connected but in a slightly different plain . You are certainly welcome to inquire as are all .

  17. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 25, 2011 8:04 am


    and something a bit more serious

    as usual, the comments on both of these articles are as interesting and thought provoking as the articles themselves. No doubt the guy was wrong in hitting the little girl, but the greater point is hashed out in detail about the police/nanny state . Well past time to throw these buggers out and simply check out of the system/game by simply saying ” I don’t want to play anymore” and not participating in the tax/debt schemes of the fractional reserve banking scam and fed reserve as little as possible. And then there is this .

    it never seems to end, so why play the game if it is totally rigged against us all? There is a better way and completely legal.

    • June 25, 2011 3:36 pm


      Thanks for the link-set and thoughts. Will discuss more on your community project. Thanks for the invite. 🙂 Much more on that soon.

      And just for general info, I deleted the you-tube link because it always comes up as an embed. I’d be happier if you-tube links went out to youtube. Anyone know how to post them as such?

  18. June 25, 2011 10:49 am


    You said:

    They say that with a single stroke the entire edifice of the animal simply opened up. The master butcher knew the source of the knot that held it together.

    Our own liberation journey has similar aspects. If we can reach the knots, they can simply be eased and teased open. No need to cut, rend or shred either. Notice that even in nature’s greatest fury there is majestic grace and beauty.

    So can it be with us also.

    Grasp the sword of your mind and wield it with passion, grace and fire.

    All it takes is knowing how. And all that takes is a practice.


    Are you suggesting that meditative practice in general, or the spiral practice you are teaching more specifically, can mitigate/counter the impacts of nuclear/chemical bombardment on the body?

    • June 29, 2011 11:24 am

      Alexandra, I’m saying that the spiral path is definitely one path. Perhaps unique in it’s roots and practices. And since it was “given” and played out as had been gently suggested to me, I’m eager for others to share it with so I myself may progress. It’s a virtuous cycle, if you get what I mean.
      It’s a path full of deep deepening and resonance and grace and power. Ultimately it is a path to absolute, axiomatic awareness. Which is where “it” is “at”. 🙂
      Let me add, I do not believe in targeted healing. Nature does not do it’s magic in a newtonian way, does it? It’s all about in-direct action.
      So my journey has showed me that going in-wards helps you find your “self”. Such a Found One , has no fear. See the Tao Teh Ching quote, passage 55 in the latest post, Thoughts and a heads up for more.
      Always happy to discuss the practice.

  19. June 25, 2011 11:46 am

    the significance and timing of this article could not be better having just heard a nephew has been dx with als. a 1991 gulf war participant he has now 2 health links to the gulf, als and an autistic son. positive thought health coupled with holistic healing has been my response to him since last november when he asked for direction. introduction to our kangen machine with hexagonal alkaline water appeared to be a suggestion that would indeed be a real test of function capability. his right thigh was already half lost from als but i thought it worth a try and added positive energy as best i could.
    thanks for the continuing source of thought and energy i receive from this site.

    • June 29, 2011 1:12 pm

      Wow Paul, that must be really hard. It is such a waste. I read about a soldier who had an excellent recovery using stem-cell therapy. Is that something you have considered? I hear the source of many stem cells is pretty ghastly though.
      Is ALS (Lou Gherig’s Disease I believe), DU related or showing up in many Gulf I vets?

      I suggest vegetarianism as a great healing support. Meat is an aggressive food and I do believe that it’s curative/energizing properties may be a tad exaggerated. Em-powered water is fantastic.
      I would also highly suggest a spinal meditation, moving awareness from the coccyx to the pineal gland and back. Gentle cycles, moving awareness. Also suggest a lot of “touch” therapy. Not clinical touch but real touch. Again, up and down the spinal column.
      you can also try the meridian awakening technique of Qi Kung. You get these rattan drum sticks. Thin fibers of cane bound together. You gently tap all the major meridian lines of the body, awakening, releasing, re-membering. I am not a doctor, but I’ve seen such methods work wonders. Please wish him luck from all of us. especial seek the bone bunions, like at the ankle and at the top pf the wrist, hip bones etc. Tap tap tap, like knock knock.
      Thanks for sharing.

  20. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 25, 2011 3:22 pm

    Recently I had a dream that revealed the super-consciuoness that Edgar Casey spoke of in relation to John’s interpretation of the book of Revelations. Casey spent much of his life interpreting and understanding Revelations as a personal human experience, not necessarily to be taken literally as is written in the Bible . Let me explain. Have you ever had a dream where you came to a point that you realized you were going to cross over into a different realm/reality/consciousness or you did cross over and it felt wonderfully exilerating and uplifting and perhaps a bit scary to continue ? That place/feeling/experience is the crossing over and or point of super-consciousness. Of letting go of our normal state which is filled with all the physical distractions and mind numbing stuff we are bombarded with everyday. It is truly a place where your deepest true identity exist’s and your pure/free thoughts can be realized and harnessed. It is also the place where sometimes you are either falling asleep or in a dream and you get a flash of ensight and something you have been pondering is answered like a bolt of lightning comes out of no where and suddenly you have the answer to whatever it is you were trying to answer and you are amazed at the clarity of it ! Kind of like tapping into an infinite source of your own wisdom/information . And it makes you feel empowered but in a very peaceful way.

    I am just starting to understand and experience the depth of these things in a consciouse way and now realize it is quite possible to tap into this potential at any time and basicly crossover, or go back and forth at will and live in such a state of awareness being able to utilize these powers/understandings, if you will . I am just in baby steps so far and fully realize this is likely a lifelong endeavor but quite real none the less. This is exactly what Terrence Mckenna was talking about as well. Tapping into the higher power/source of consciousness . Basicly it is largely due to letting go of the illusions we all live in/under this system and accepting the most basic facts of our existance . Also simply realizing that we have given over our power of self to a very few elites who dictate how we shall live in every way. This is completely unnecessary and we can free ourselves with our own powers, by simply understanding and letting go of the established norm as the only possibile end game . I have studied all the major religions and philosophies in one form or another over many years and have come to the conclusion they all have a common thread and that is to free yourself of every day or worldly garbage so you can actually THINK and therefore live by your own powers/natural wisdom, which is infinite ! FREEDOM !!!!!!

  21. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 25, 2011 3:30 pm

    By the way there are foods/supplements one can eat to mitigate the affects of nuclear fallout and many other pollutants. Flushing or cleansing the body on a regular basis is also a good practice and is rather easy to do as well.

  22. June 26, 2011 11:35 am

    ORI, you are correct I believe. These atmospheric tests have poisoned the entire lower 48 states as well as a large swath of Mexico. The level of denial amongst the populace is incredible, a testament to the power of the military’s propaganda machine. My own brother was diagnosed with cancer a year ago, as were three of his co-workers within a two year time frame. Not only all had cancer, but the same type of throat cancer. This happened as they were employees of the same resort on the Gulf of Mexico in Florida. My theory is radioactive particles from Nevada test sites carried aloft during a winter cold front would have no barriers until arriving at the beach a thousand miles away. A straight shot, day after day. My theory gets shot down every time by the ubiquitous War on Terror like meme of letting the military “do their job”.

    This blip of time we during which we inhabit the Earth has the potential to foul the nest for millions of years. Our only path to redemption as a species is to eliminate any fissionable products from our environment as soon as we can, admittedly a tall order.

    • June 29, 2011 11:19 am

      We’ve been pretty horrible self-appointed stewards of the surface and atmosphere of the planet eh, I1?
      The problem with the ridding of fissionable materials is that all that is already out there is doing it’s work and will continue to do so for a long time. So, what will sort this out? A planetary vacuum cleaning and dust-up? A spring clean….. sounds….destabilizing…..

      Thus the hard reset that we can soften for ourselves first and then those immediately around us.

      Thanks for sharing.

  23. blindman permalink
    June 26, 2011 11:03 pm

    for the record…
    here, hear !
    John Trudell , I’m crazy ?

    • nadall permalink
      June 27, 2011 1:18 am

      Blind, you say? Thanks for the link.

  24. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 27, 2011 6:39 am

    Vivek – I thought that you tube song (This sucks about everything) was way cool . Not that it was musically good, but the underlying thesis and the fact that young people are “getting it”. I don’t know how to send as link only but I will look and see what I can do. I imagine most here would like it and put a smile on their faces. After watching it a couple of times it is rather catchy !

    Goats, chickens, manure and sweat, the way of the future ! If there is a future. I will be posting more expanded info/ideas shortly and of course you are welcome, just show up anytime ! See if this works better ?

    • June 27, 2011 6:51 am

      Still the same. Somehow that image of the Benocide in a bikini is too disturbing for me! 🙂

      Hey, Blindman, how do you post just the link?

      And thanks so much for the invitation Stephen. We’ll watch the signs, see how it all unfolds eh? You might be pleasantly surprised by what is coming out with the Book/DVD’s. 😉
      Good luck and once it takes on some shape or otherwise even, I’ll tell known good folks in the US about what you are doing. It is what is needed.

  25. john permalink
    June 27, 2011 8:58 pm

    How can I stay sane in this insane world. The more I learn the more depressed I get; I feel powerless. How can I make a difference in this world when the agenda has been set for decades by the elite which I have no strength to challenge. I just want to cry for the world and the millions who will die for no fault of their own. What is my purpose? To love and disseminate truth? Part of me yearns for blissful ignorance but that would be a wasted life.

  26. blindman permalink
    June 28, 2011 4:09 am

    @ a
    ” how do you post ..?”
    i don’t know. i just copy and paste from the http line and
    sometimes it is just a link line and sometimes the page results.
    it must be a digital wedding and negotiation in the dark world
    of browsers?

    • Nadall permalink
      June 29, 2011 7:13 pm

      Aw John …. I truly feel for you (being a “feeler” as you seem to be .. some have said an “empath”). It is NOT handleable from an emotional perspective, especially the children and animals. I am learning to refocus … to unstick/detach/disengage myself from such things in the “news” in all of it’s forms. I just can’t look anymore. The fear and the pain just feeds the “bad guys/dark forces/negative, self aware AI programs” or whatever they/it really are/is. So, I’ve kinda got my own little “reset” going on. The only thing I can do anything about is what is within and around ME. In my immediate vicinity. (Which of course includes anything I focus on within the world wide web). I find it very difficult, it’s taking a lot of practice (we’ve been programmed to the negative since birth) and determination and persistence and will be life-long. That’s ok. Just make a beginning, right? First of all, do no harm. As I look “up” I begin to see the next step and then the next.
      I guess I just really want you to know you are not alone and are not as powerless as you think.
      One really good way to reset/refocus is Vivek’s FIRST EXERCISE. You can find it on the blog. Another thing is I use my imagination to picture how LOVE would want the situation to be (pretend it’s RIGHT, good, well, and holy) and hold this in my mind and heart for a while, then shoot that energy into the horror, whatever it may happen to be. Don’t know if it helps the situation or not (there are those who strongly believe it does) but it sure helps ME and me is my area of responsibility. Love to you.

  27. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 28, 2011 6:10 am

    Vivek –
    Apparently it did it again. If you need to take it down and I will try again. I simply copied and pasted a link off ZH ? Thought it was quite cool anyway. Have already had several inquiries on putting together property/farm so I wll expand ideas right away. Basicly it is simply forming an LLC and buying the suitable property of which there are many here amd it is all easily accomplished, with mucho privacy and 300 + days of sunshine and a mild climate. A banana belt in Oregon ! Very few people are aware of .

  28. Stephen Baze permalink
    June 28, 2011 7:14 am

    John – We are all faced with the same dilemna. Come join us and don’t play the game. Live your own life. Do whatever you have to do to “get away”

    Alexandra – Thanks for the words of encouragement and good wishes. Back at you as well .

  29. July 2, 2011 8:27 am

    just a minor point i thought i would mention.junk food or preserved food will not really preserve you from the cant really be connected with longevity, and my hunch is that on average the life spans of people would correspondingly decrease with the amount of junk food they make room for.
    if there is one area where 20th century science is in agreement with classical wisdom is that a reduction in diet is clearly linked to a longer life span.they agreed this for the first time with a lab experiment in the 1930’s when they tested the hypothesis on rats.ever since there have been extensive studies on this topic, all agreeing that as soon as diet is cut down, longevity is increased.the same i would think applies to junk food vs regular food.junk food satisfies the belly space without being nutritious, so that 4 hours after eating, when it is the actual time of cellular nutrition, one’s body does not feel satisfies, giving rise to a craving to eat again, eventually going into a vicious cycle of sorts…preservatives or excess salt in the diet are actually responsible to a large extent for hypertension.there is no common ground on the theory of why hypertension occurs, but everyone agrees that it is an urban phenomena..there are no blood pressure patients or almost none at all if we look at areas that are still truly rural..the same quantity of tomatoes in the form of ketchup contains more than 150 times the sodium.Sodium in high dosages is a toxin for the body, and accelarates well..the old diet of vegetable and grain and pulses in some balance should be a better preservative than junk food or processed food..

    • July 2, 2011 11:35 am

      Doc, Thanks for sharing.
      I’m simply stating that a body filled with natural and unnatural preservatives will “exist” longer, whether it’s in-habit-ant has a “life” or not.
      I imagine over sugared, over salted and jam-packed with preservatives junk will extend your quantity while severely reducing quality, life-wise that is.
      out west, I’ve seen many many walking dead.
      PS: I have radical views on medicine/curing/healing.

  30. Stephen Baze permalink
    July 8, 2011 5:17 am

    I would say antibiotics for every little sneeze is quite radical . So I doubt I would consider your ideas radical . It is simply amazing to me how people have turned over their health to so-called doctors who are in reality legal pharma peddlers and not much else . Another form of giving our powers to the so-called “professionals” because they have those initials/letters behind their name which is nothing more than a legal mechanism to sell you something . And many times that something makes bad matters far worse ? But they must know better than you ? Ha Ha Ha .

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